Stagmomantis floridensis hatches...

hot*stuff · #1 (**permalink**) 21st February 2010, 16:55

Wow! pretty lil things...pics later, around 40 out so far * small ooth for 40 big nymphs to pop out of!
Whoooooooooooop! I can diapause

plant · #2 (**permalink**) 21st February 2010, 17:10

Congratulations

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I can diapause

Hope you didn't get too chilly

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hot*stuff · #3 (**permalink**) 21st February 2010, 17:11

Bloody freezin, i could av someones eye out

baaaaaaahahahah

andy bailey · #4 (**permalink**) 21st February 2010, 17:21

Well done! ... (see? somethings hatching!

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These new in these parts?

hot*stuff · #5 (**permalink**) 21st February 2010, 17:23

Can be seen here..Page Title
Got the ooth as a gift from Craig. THANK you Craig x

dEsSiCaTa_UK · #6 (**permalink**) 21st February 2010, 17:35

Here's an update from Yen_saw who originially collected them i think

I cant see how they can possibly be the same species

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Originally Posted by yen_saw

Sorry to bring this old thread back. Both specimen collected from Missouri and Texas are indeed Stagmomantis carolina. A surprise to Julio himself although he first suspected they are different. Following is his email...

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Hi Yen:

How are you? I am very sorry for my late response..I was out in the field. I checked the genitalia of your specimens long time ago but I totally forgot to send you an email with my findings before heading to the Andes!!

Anyways, the two specimens of Stagmomantis you sent are both S. carolina. I am very surprised because the variability of their external morphology...despite this I couldn't detect any significant difference in the male genitalia. I compared the genitalia of these two specimens with a couple of more typical (brown-morph) S. carolina I have in my collection from Georgia and Florida and found no differences either. S. carolina is well known for being extremely variable and I wouldn't be surprised if we are actually dealing with a cryptic species situation here. Unfortunately nobody has ever looked into the nature of the morphological variation and if there is any geographic pattern in the distribution of certain morphological traits that might be an indication of geographic races, cryptic species or incipient speciation. The situation with your Rhombodera is the same: one species.

I am glad you managed to get the original description of S. floridensis. I would be happy to get male specimens and perhaps publish a brief note describing the male genitalia which is still unknown. Please let me know if you have a few specimens so that I can take a look to the males. If you have any additional material or questions please do not hesitate in contacting me.

Take care!
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M.Sc. Julio Rivera
Associated Researcher
Museo de Entomología Klaus Raven Buller
Universidad Nacional Agraria La Molina
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