Malaysia

noobsauce · #1 (**permalink**) 24th January 2010, 17:43

Ok guys, just a lil question here, is it illegal to wild collect species from malasia? or catch wild adults and take the eggs and send them to the uk.
If this makes sense lol
Ryan

Birdfly · #2 (**permalink**) 24th January 2010, 18:08

I don't think its illegal unless the country in question has any specific export laws or the creature in question is protected.
It would be unfair to post nymphs or adults but ootheca would post easily and safely

send me some and we'll see

andy bailey · #3 (**permalink**) 24th January 2010, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Birdfly

but ootheca would post easily and safely

send me some and we'll see

Lol! +1!

Lethalhayd · #4 (**permalink**) 24th January 2010, 18:21

i know its illegal to take live things back to uk by plane. if they catch you they kill the livestock also i think it's Malaysia

noobsauce · #5 (**permalink**) 24th January 2010, 21:35

lol guys i dont live there, i have a supplier there, i recently got some phyllium giganteum and i asked for their stock lists as they have loads of mannie species and phasmids, so was just checking its deffo legal.
Ryan

WeeBean · #6 (**permalink**) 8th February 2010, 17:24

It may be legal, but a lot of countries don't use very ethical ways of collecting insects and as a result native stocks are being deplenished. I was always under the impression that it's a better idea to buy captive species.

noobsauce · #7 (**permalink**) 8th February 2010, 19:11

they are captive farmed, but point taken, and i do agree to a certain extent but it was just those species that you dont see captive bred much

Christian · #8 (**permalink**) 9th February 2010, 01:47

You don't see them captive bred yet because the right people didn't get them yet.
By the way, W-Malaysia allows the export of live and dead insect stock (as demonstrated by all the dealers), E-Malaysia (Sarawak, Sabah) does not. What a coincidence that most logging occures on Borneo... Unfortunately, E-Malaysia was degraded to mere timber and oil palm land. If they just were as busy with conservation issues... Indonesia is even worse. If you have some bucks go visiting it now because most of it will not last for very long.

Ozgi · #9 (**permalink**) 9th February 2010, 11:51

Isn't it illegal to import any living thing without declaring it, and also having an import licence and paying import fees?

Christian · #10 (**permalink**) 9th February 2010, 12:23

Import fees are more an issue for commercial dealers. With insects (or animals in general) it's more endangered (CITES) and potential pest or dangerous (poisonous) organisms that must have a permit. But this depends of the respective country, I don't know the UK laws.